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Interesting that the Boy would be treated in The United States, and not in a country that has Socialized medicine..First off, it is a very heartwarming story, But why would the people who brought him here to America choose to have the surgery done in America when Everybody knows they have superior health care facilities in Canada,Britain,Sweden, or Cuba..Just can't seem to figure this one out..I thought one of the benefits of Socialized Medicine that Obama wants to install was better health care Hmmmm!!! I'm puzzled
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I am very happy for the boy and also very happy his people brought him here to America where he will get the best Health care imagineable
#1 - Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:40 PM EST
where he will get the best Health care imagineable
Has nothing to do with that.
It was an American doctor in Ethiopia who selected Akwak for the trip to Denver.
The doctor was a US docotor who chose him that is why he came here. Has NOTHING to do with bettter care or the best.
This seed is inaccurate.
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Doesn't matter where he came from or where he was treated. As long as the boy is well it's all that matters to me.
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#2 - Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:02 PM ESTDoesn't matter where he came from or where he was treated. As long as the boy is well it's all that matters to me.
The doctor was a US docotor who chose him that is why he came here. Has NOTHING to do with bettter care or the best.
I wonder where all the Canadian, British,Scandanavian doctors we're then..You don't hear about positive stories like this in the regular ABC,NBC,CBS news..Maybe if The boy was treated in GB we would have heard of the superiority if the British health care system..That the boy is well is great, however both you guys want to dismiss the fact that the US still has the best health care system in the world, and people make the trek every year to have life saving measures done..also regardless of whether the doctor was in Ethiopia
US still has the best health care system in the world, and people make the trek every year to have life saving measures done..also regardless of whether the doctor was in Ethiopia
First the US is NOT the best. It is ranked about 17th in the world.
Second you keep missing the point from your seed that it was a US doctor so you are just blowing smoke.
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J D
Joe , like so many of his ilk, when it comes to discussing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, will purposely confuse and conflate potential quality of health care with the real administration of covered health care.
I've seen it commonly used to misdirect the conversation and debate. Joe will continue to conflate the two bringing up anecdotal evidence of heads of states who come to the US for treatment, unless you keep correcting him. He is very good at being purposely obtuse.
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Your welcome Joe...now I can talk about you ... behind your back...HA!
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LMAO - Bill, that's hilarious.
And Joe, they're right. Your argument is flawed. Very, very flawed on several different levels. I'm curious if you're doing it on purpose at this point. You realize your error but are going to continue pushing forward with it as if that will somehow "save face" or "make it right."
I assure you, it won't, and you're only ending up with more egg on your face. Let's work towards intellectual integrity.
First the US is NOT the best. It is ranked about 17th in the world.
yeah, I see your point JD..It's not the best, but if a person needs a life saving operation..This is the first place they come..why don't you move to Cuba or Venezuela..I heard they have first rate health care there...maybe even Ethiopia
#3 - Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:51 AM EST..This is the first place they come..why don't you move to Cuba or Venezuela.
That is NOT true either.
Second why do you attack me? I didn't get the story wrong you did.
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Joe stop blowing steam, you're digging yourself a hole. An American doctor saved a kids life. That's a good thing. Politics has nothing to do with this. As Jack said, the doctor accepts the cases.
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Joe stop blowing steam, you're digging yourself a hole. An American doctor saved a kids life. That's a good thing.
Never said it wasn't LD..Just wondering where the news was on this story that saved a boy's life by bringing him to America, the supposed land where health care is not all that great..regardless of where the doctor is from..Do doctors from other countries do this as well, or do they not believe in their own health system..My feeling is they probably have less success with this kind of thing..Once again I am glad the boy is alright..To me it shows The compassion of the US Medical teams and the lengths they go to that people rarely ever write about..All we hear from the left is we don't have the best health care system in the world..Yes, I have heard that before, just wondering if they are aware of the people like this doctor..I know of several American Doctors who do these things on a regular basis including going to places that have very limited medical facilities to help out those less fortunate..On their own dime..so you can stop with trying to tell me to stop blowing smoke..I am not blowing smoke at the Physician or the medical team..I am blowing smoke at the Obama administration who wants me to believe we are a Nation of uncaring people
Second why do you attack me?
If it seemed like an attack, I apologize..But if other countries are so great in their healthcare system, then why don't people go to those countries for treatment..Didn't Michael Moore tells us they have a great health care system in Cuba
Joe,
Michael Moore and Cuba have nothing to do with this seed.
Apology accepted.
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Michael Moore and Cuba have nothing to do with this seed.
I was just bringing up the countries we have been told that have a better health care system by Michael Moore, and asking the $64,000 dollar question..Why do people come to America for life saving procedures rather than go to other countries..This health care bill was passed for no other reason then liberal activism
I didn't know you seeded this..you will need to report me for being off Topic..
This health care bill was passed for no other reason then liberal activism
That is purely partisan. There are hell of lot people out there without health insurance. The new law is not perfect but, it will be improved.
I didn't know you seeded this..you will need to report me for being off Topic..
NO. I am just staying focused.
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The doctor is the one that's judged, not the system. He was a good doctor (supposedly) and took care of him.
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That is purely partisan. There are hell of lot people out there without health insurance
NO. I am just staying focused.
You need to
You mean like the Partisan health care bill passed in March of 2010
President Barack Obama and his Congressional allies are spending money that they know we don’t have on a program that they know isn’t going to work – all in an effort to expand government’s control over the private sector and its reach into the private lives of American citizens.
“ObamaCare is really about who commands the country's medical resources,” an editorial in The Wall Street Journal noted the day before the legislation was passed. “It vastly accelerates the march toward a totally state-driven system, in contrast to reforms that would fix today's distorted status quo by putting consumers in control.”
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_howard_rich/obamacare_the_bigger_the_lie
Now...back to our regularly scheduled program
#4 - Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:42 PM ESTThere is the quality of health care in America ... and then there is the American health care system. Two totally different subjects.
The health care system includes the insurance corporations and the accompanying administration of health care coverage that, in it's present form, is so bad and expensive that it can not be defended by anyone.
This waste of resources puts the US in the number 2 rating for total expenditure on health as % of GDP just behind the Marshal Islands. This is largely because the US is the only nation in the world that ALLOWS insurance corporations to make a profit selling health insurance to human beings
Defending the health care system by extolling the quality of possible health care within that system is being purposely obtuse
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“ObamaCare is really about who commands the country's medical resources,” an editorial in The Wall Street Journal noted the day before the legislation was passed. “It vastly accelerates the march toward a totally state-driven system, in contrast to reforms that would fix today's distorted status quo by putting consumers in control.”
Well the rigth wing has had fifty plus years and the only thing did was make Medicare part D so bad it took the Dems to fix that so NO .
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#5 - Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:45 PM ESTIn 2000 through 2010 the World Health Organization ranked the US healthcare as number 37 , Number 14 in preventable deaths, number 24 in healthy life expectancy, number 72 by health performance rank and Number 2 by Total Health Expenditures as % of GDP.
The WHO does not look at how well the wealthiest and elite can be treated...they instead look at how the citizenry as a whole are treated.
You can chant " USA number one " all you want Joe...but it isn't accurate in regards to national healthcare.
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#6 - Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:56 PM ESTI think he's saying exactly the opposite. I think he's trashing our system...
then again it gets confusing after 20 countries are named in 1 thread.
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Leafydebater;
Joe is using this heartwarming international human interest story to perpetrate the lie that we do not need the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act in the US.
He uses this story in his heartless logic to try to convince you that nations that cover their citizens for health care in some way have inferior health care to the US. Nothing could be further from the truth.
This case has nothing to do with insurance... it is charity. Joe is trying to use your emotions to make a case for repeal of our law that begins to bring us up to humanity standards the rest of the world legislated a long time ago.
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#7 - Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:55 PM ESTBill Pitcher..you really need to get a life...I believe you are stalking me..but since you are on my ignore list, I read nothing you say, so it is only conjecture on my part, however knowing your personality(Um excuse me).. Your lack of a personality is not my problem..It is yours..But you do seem to lack common courtesy for any viners including myself..I wonder if you even like yourself..My guess is you don't..I haven't read any of your posts..O wait a minute maybe it's because you have never posted anything..let's see you've been on the vine since 2009 and never even posted anything you really care about..It's my guess you don't really care about anything or anyone but Bill Pitcher..Of course you would like everyone to believe you care about all mankind..by attacking me and my philosophy.. I guess that's the best you can do..well we all can't be genius' . I think you should take your Avitar(The Thinker) to heart and think on the subject for a while..Maybe that's your problem..you don't...think that is..anyway, I can't say it's been a pleasure knowing you, because of all the people I have encountered on the vine..You have been the least pleasurable individual...
#8 - Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:17 PM ESTThe USA is the only country in the world that ALLOWS insurance corporations to make a profit selling health insurance to human beings.
Until we can get past this moral dilemma the health care situation in America will never be resolved.
Profit motivated policies will always hurt the American consumers ability to stay well without going broke.
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